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bcliberalGeorge Abbott@CarrieBercic @MommaYomma limits are not higher. Limit before Bill 22 was 22 (K), 24 (Gr 1 to 3) and 30 (Gr 4 to 12). Same under Bill 22.
CarrieBercic@georgeabbottbc thanks again for the tweets and clarification @MommaYomma
CarrieBercic@georgeabbottbc if this is the case then what does bctf have a problem with.. must be something not being said here @MommaYomma
CarrieBercic@georgeabbottbc if there is no difference why are teachers so passionate and upset now? Why are they so willing to fight? @MommaYommaKathy_Rice@georgeabbottbc @carriebercic @mommayomma sd57 before 2001 contract was ripped up K(20) 1-3(22) 4-7(28) 8-12(30) #bclibs protecting Ed? Not!
KyleLudeman@georgeabbottbc Not real limits if they can be easily erased with the signature of admin. Plus many exceptions! @CarrieBercic @MommaYomma
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bcliberalGeorge Abbott@Kathy_Rice @carriebercic @mommayomma Today avg SD57 class size is lower K 18.9, 1-3: 20.7, 4-7: 25.8, 8-12: 24.6 http://t.co/xGBKr3co #bced
soltauheller@georgeabbottbc @Kathy_Rice @carriebercic @mommayomma we have some 1/2/3 room schools which really help our district averages- 7 kids k-7Kathy_Rice@georgeabbottbc @carriebercic @mommayomma pls don't suggst "averages" replace firm caps. We CLEARLY lost caps & support for kids. #bclib
Kathy_Rice@georgeabbottbc @carriebercic @mommayomma what are the district averages for how much librarians have decreased? LA Ts? Support Ts? ESL/D?
JoannaLLarson@georgeabbottbc @Kathy_Rice @carriebercic @mommayomma What about #'s of students on IEP's??? can't forget the composition problem worsening.
KyleLudemanApples & oranges, @georgeabbottbc. Averages are not the same as upper limits. @Kathy_Rice @carriebercic @mommayomma
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bcliberalGeorge Abbott@CarrieBercic @MommaYomma Bill 22 maintains class size limits: hard cap of 22 for K, hard cap of 24 for Gr 1-3 & max of 30 for Gr 4-12 #
CarrieBercic@georgeabbottbc you can see why parents can be confused with such conflicting information.... @MommaYomma
CarrieBercic@georgeabbottbc one side is saying that classes can be any size if a principal so chooses, one is saying there are hard caps @MommaYommasymphily@georgeabbottbc This is a categorical lie. Bill 22 legislates cash for kids, bribes teachers for over-crowded classes. [ #BCed ]
symphily@georgeabbottbc ANYONE who actually reads Bill 22 will know that you are lying. Where is accountability now? [ #BCed ]
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bcliberalGeorge Abbott@Sheri_K @CrockerJanet @carriebercic @mommayomma Bill 22 restores the right to collectively bargain class size/comp for next round #bced
CarrieBercic@georgeabbottbc ok, does everyone see why this is so frustrating and confusing for parents... @Sheri_K @CrockerJanet @mommayomma
CarrieBercic@georgeabbottbc all sides contradict each other and it is impossible to figure out! @Sheri_K @CrockerJanet @mommayomma
Sheri_K@georgeabbottbc @CrockerJanet @carriebercic @mommayomma Why next round? Why not now??? Right should never have been stripped. #bcedsymphily@georgeabbottbc @Sheri_K @CrockerJanet @carriebercic @mommayomma Weren't those /ILLEGALLY/ removed? Remember justice & democracy? [ #BCe
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bcliberalGeorge Abbott@CarrieBercic @MommaYomma the main stumbling block for the BCTF has been the net-zero mandate.
Janfra2@georgeabbottbc Categorically untrue. Try lack of respect for us and our rights which have upset all teachers.#bced
Sheri_K@georgeabbottbc @CarrieBercic @MommaYomma That is not true. It's about the concessions and erosion of rights. #bced
KyleLudeman@georgeabbottbc Your insinuation = teachers only care about $. Feeding negative anti-teacher rhetoric. @CarrieBercic @MommaYomma
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bcliberalMary Polakdid u know that 15.1% of #bc is protected, which is more than any other province in #canada? #langley #bcpoli
MommaYomma@MaryPolakMLA I think what you're doing in Langley is great. Wish we had someone like you in North Delta.IanVancouver@MaryPolakMLA #bcpoli A Harcourt initiative completed by Clark and opposed by the BC Liberals
wood_jl@MaryPolakMLA If you are talking about park/wild life protected areas, it still isn't enough. Way too much development, not enought green.
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bcliberalGeorge Abbott@Sheri_K @CrockerJanet @carriebercic @mommayomma hard caps are not set by regulation - they are in legislation
Sheri_K@georgeabbottbc @CrockerJanet @carriebercic @mommayomma I will read again. #bced
Mathew3snrf@georgeabbottbc http://t.co/XELuYq4L
KyleLudeman@georgeabbottbc If caps are exceeded, what's the recourse? Sue in small claims? @Sheri_K @CrockerJanet @carriebercic @mommayomma
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MommaYomma@georgeabbottbc The 2012 year is almost over so putting it into contract isnt meaningful #bced @CarrieBercic
CarrieBercic@georgeabbottbc arent the limits slightly higher though? used to be 19 at K now is 22? for ex. or am i mistaken @MommaYomma
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bcliberalGeorge Abbott@MommaYomma @CarrieBercic exceptions can only occur in gr 4 to 12 and require sign off of both principal and superintendent
CarrieBercic@georgeabbottbc what would be an example of an exception? @MommaYomma
KyleLudeman@georgeabbottbc Will they sign off for pedagogical reasons or narrow budgetary reasons? @MommaYomma @CarrieBercic
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bcliberalGeorge Abbott@CarrieBercic @MommaYomma example - if school has one physics 12 class & 31 students want to take physics 12, then exception could occur
CarrieBercic@georgeabbottbc thank you for the clarification @MommaYomma
KyleLudeman@georgeabbottbc But if they have one History 12 class of 22, that might not be enough to run under current model. @CarrieBercic @MommaYomma
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